inventor and manufacturer of Aladdin Autovents
NLB Engineering Ltd

Questions and Answers

 Questions  Answers
1.  Don’t all automatic de-aeration valves leak?

 No.  Aladdin Autovents do not leak.  They are guaranteed to operate for 3 years, and guaranteed leak-free for life.  They contain a patented mechanical valve that positively closes when water gets to the internal mechanism of the valve.   The Hygroseal™ range has a 5 year replacement guarantee.

 

 2.  How do I find out the size of my radiator tapping?

 With a 1/2" BSP thread, the threaded hole in the tapping at the top of the radiator is approximately 20mm diameter – you should be able to fit your index finger in the tapping. The plug screwed in to the tapping will either be a chrome hexagonal valve, or a 'plug' with a square cavity in it. 

If you are uncertain or for smaller tappings please contact your radiator’s manufacturer.

 

 3.  Can I fit Autovents to a new system?

 Yes, on newly installed closed systems there will be a small pressure drop over the first 2 weeks or so as dissolved air separates from the fresh water (around 17% by volume) , but any further pressure drop would be due to loss of system water (leaks). Some installers are priming a newly installed system to about 10% more than its operating pressure to compensate on a system fitted with Autovents.

 

 4.   Does the Autovent work on Closed and Open systems?

 Yes, on newly installed closed systems there will be a small pressure drop over the first 2 weeks or so as dissolved air separates from the fresh water (around 17% by volume) , but any further pressure drop would be due to loss of system water (leaks). Some installers are priming a newly installed system to about 10% more than its operating pressure to compensate on a system fitted with Autovents.

 

 5.  On a Closed system will fitting automatic vents cause the

    pressure to drop to zero and the boiler stop operating?

 The answer is linked to the above – continual venting will be due to new air entering the system (through micro-gaps in joints etc.).  Once the fresh water has vented its 17% of absorbed air the volume of water cannot further reduce in size – so if you still experience pressure drop it’s due to water loss, i.e. a leak, which will require to be cured.

 

 6.  Can corrosion inhibitors be used with an Autovent?

 Yes.  Fitting the Autovent should reduce the need for corrosion inhibitors as all your radiators will be free of air, but we do recommend their use because corrosion leads to further gas collecting in the radiators.  To allow inhibitors to be used ensure at least one radiator still has a manual vent plug fitted at the opposite end to an Autovent, as this will allow the inhibitor to be injected.

 

 7.  Can leak-stop products be used with the Autovent?

 Leak-stop products can jam valves in certain circumstances.
We do not recommend their use.

 

 8.  What if the Hygroscopic™ Autovent is not venting?

 The first time radiators fitted with these Hygroscopic™ Autovents are filled the air hisses out until water hits the hygroscopic washers and then they seal (you will often see a small ‘bubble’ of water after the first fill).  If more air/gas builds up in the radiator, it will not escape until the hygroscopic washers have dried a little and have shrunk enough for gas/air to escape.  The time it takes for the hygroscopic washers to dry and shrink varies according to ambient temperature and humidity: see the table in the Technical Details on the Product Page.  So please, give this valve time to dry, before contacting us. 

 

 9.  Can I vent the Hygroscopic™ Autovent manually?

 Yes. 

Cartridge version: by loosening the cartridge slowly until you can hear gas/air escaping.

Cartridge-free version: by using a spanner to loosen the whole valve slowly until you can hear gas/air escaping.

 

 10. Can I fit the valve to a piping ‘spur’ at a system high - point?

 Yes, provided the temperature of the piping allows the valve to operate at 35°C for the Hygroseal vent.

 

 11. Can the valves work on negative pressure systems?

     On about 1 in 400 systems air may be drawn in to the

     system where either (a) there is a radiator close to the

     suction side of the pump or, (b) where a radiator is higher

     than the water tank, in which case when the pump stops

     running a vacuum forms (e.g. in loft conversions).

 The Hygroseal valve has a semi-one way valve fitted already as standard, and will work on negative pressure systems.

 12. When do I know when to replace my Hygroseal cartridge?

 If after a minimum of 5 years, the radiator starts getting cold at the top, the cartridge may require replacing in order to continue venting automatically.

It is worth manually venting as in Q 11 in case it is simply a case of the radiator running cool for a long period, and then seeing if the valve starts venting automatically again.

 

 13. Air collecting in a radiator can be an early indication of a leak

     in the central heating system.  Should I be worried that fitting

     an Autovent will mean that I spot a leak later?

 On a pressurised system:

After the air absorbed in the water has separated (see 4 and 5, above), the best early indicator of a leak is a drop in pressure of the system, and an Autovent should, if anything, lead to a faster drop in pressure so an even earlier indication of a leak.

 

 On a header-tank system:

Air can enter the system through micro-gaps in joints etc., without a leak, but in some cases a leak could lead to air collecting in one radiator, and in those cases fitting an Autovent might delay the identification of a leak.  On such systems, NLB recommends that Autovents should be fitted to installed radiators that have a history of collecting air, and only after a careful inspection of the system has not identified any leak.